Comments on: Over a third of New Zealanders say homosexuality is 'morally wrong' http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/ PinkNews.co.uk Gay News (UK and world) from Pink News - all the gay news for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community in the UK and beyond- thegaynews from Pink News Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:58:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Stevemd2 http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-78226 Stevemd2 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:00:25 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-78226 For the great majority of Christianity - especially the fundamentalists, God invented Hell. Unfortunately he must have lost the key to the door, or He would be busily tossing the religious freaks into the fire. Everyone should read "The end of Faith" by Sam Harris, a USA book published about 2004. And unless you are both religious and belong to a really progressive religion, you should toss your bible, and use this book as the bible. Religion in my view has been the worst monstrosity ever invented by mankind. The cause of or a major supporting cast of every war we have ever scene. For the great majority of Christianity – especially the fundamentalists, God invented Hell. Unfortunately he must have lost the key to the door, or He would be busily tossing the religious freaks into the fire.

Everyone should read "The end of Faith" by Sam Harris, a USA book published about 2004.

And unless you are both religious and belong to a really progressive religion, you should toss your bible, and use this book as the bible.

Religion in my view has been the worst monstrosity ever invented by mankind. The cause of or a major supporting cast of every war we have ever scene.

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]]> By: Eagle Ashcroft http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-77949 Eagle Ashcroft Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:58:45 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-77949 Which means that there are more lesbians in the closet than there are gay men in the closet making the statement they believe they are morally wrong as no real "straight" person is going to let either a lesbian or a gay man bother them. Only a closeted lesbian or gay man would proclaim they believe homosexuality is morally wrong. But to a believer in a god that is like saying "I believe God's creation is morally wrong." Why should gays be singled out because they were born gay? Why are gay animals singled out because they are born gay? Why not pick on a black person for being born black and saying it is morally wrong. I'd like to say being born a woman is morally wrong and see how these old whores like that. Which means that there are more lesbians in the closet than there are gay men in the closet making the statement they believe they are morally wrong as no real "straight" person is going to let either a lesbian or a gay man bother them. Only a closeted lesbian or gay man would proclaim they believe homosexuality is morally wrong. But to a believer in a god that is like saying "I believe God's creation is morally wrong." Why should gays be singled out because they were born gay? Why are gay animals singled out because they are born gay? Why not pick on a black person for being born black and saying it is morally wrong. I'd like to say being born a woman is morally wrong and see how these old whores like that.

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]]> By: Phil http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-74609 Phil Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:43:04 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-74609 So a poll conducted in random phone calls to 750 people determines how 4.3 million think! Firstly could the caller have influenced the outcome or even lied on their form to manipulate the outcome. I do not think this NZ poll is legitimate and should be dismissed. If you live in NZ pick 750 at random from the phone book and conduct your own poll, you may find the outcome to be completely different. Was the poll anonimous? Where did they select the 'random' phone numbers from? If they were brought from a marketing company with religious affiliations this would prejudice the outcome. So a poll conducted in random phone calls to 750 people determines how 4.3 million think! Firstly could the caller have influenced the outcome or even lied on their form to manipulate the outcome. I do not think this NZ poll is legitimate and should be dismissed.

If you live in NZ pick 750 at random from the phone book and conduct your own poll, you may find the outcome to be completely different. Was the poll anonimous? Where did they select the 'random' phone numbers from? If they were brought from a marketing company with religious affiliations this would prejudice the outcome.

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]]> By: Vo Dong Cung http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-74332 Vo Dong Cung Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:02:06 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-74332 sorry typing error, www.vaticancrimes.us sorry typing error, http://www.vaticancrimes.us

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]]> By: Vo Dong Cung http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-74330 Vo Dong Cung Fri, 25 Sep 2009 04:59:16 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-74330 What is "morally right"? Is this one: 'www.vaticantcrimes.us'? What is "morally right"? Is this one: 'www.vaticantcrimes.us'?

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]]> By: Brian Burton http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-74260 Brian Burton Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:54:41 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-74260 Leilah, What ever Leilah wants, Leilah gets and little man Leilah wants you...Sorry Leilah, Just sounding off. Life is simple, it's people who are complex don't you think? Leilah is a middle Eastern name. My sister is married to a Iranian man and they have a Daughter called Leilah. Me, I dress in Drag and say to someone I don't want to talk to,"Your stepping on my eyelashes ducky!" Leilah,
What ever Leilah wants, Leilah gets and little man Leilah wants you…Sorry Leilah, Just sounding off. Life is simple, it's people who are complex don't you think? Leilah is a middle Eastern name. My sister is married to a Iranian man and they have a Daughter called Leilah. Me, I dress in Drag and say to someone I don't want to talk to,"Your stepping on my eyelashes ducky!"

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]]> By: Leilah http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-74121 Leilah Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:37:47 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-74121 What a really stupid article. With a population of 4 odd mil I hardly think that 750 is a balanced survey! Comment by Brian Burton — September 23, 2009 @ 16:58 "N.Zealand is a crap place to live." Wow Brian thats a pretty big statement you made there. And you based it on what? One, just one, of the mainstream media publications. Hmmmm... Ever been here ducky? And the rest of you negative windbags, what exactly do you know about NZ? A big F all is what it sounds like! I think those 750 people they picked were probably the few remaining religious nut cases we have left here. Probably all members of Destiny Church, which no one takes seriously anyway! What a really stupid article. With a population of 4 odd mil I hardly think that 750 is a balanced survey!

Comment by Brian Burton — September 23, 2009 @ 16:58
"N.Zealand is a crap place to live."

Wow Brian thats a pretty big statement you made there. And you based it on what? One, just one, of the mainstream media publications. Hmmmm… Ever been here ducky? And the rest of you negative windbags, what exactly do you know about NZ? A big F all is what it sounds like!

I think those 750 people they picked were probably the few remaining religious nut cases we have left here. Probably all members of Destiny Church, which no one takes seriously anyway!

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]]> By: Robert, ex-pat Brit http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-74060 Robert, ex-pat Brit Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:44:58 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-74060 SamB, and I bet among the 42%, many are religious. Wherever you have religion, you'll always have bigotry, its a breeding ground for it. Religious bigots have more character flaws than anyone else and a lot to hide if you scratch the surface a bit. The worst offenders of all when it comes to hypocrisy. SamB, and I bet among the 42%, many are religious. Wherever you have religion, you'll always have bigotry, its a breeding ground for it. Religious bigots have more character flaws than anyone else and a lot to hide if you scratch the surface a bit. The worst offenders of all when it comes to hypocrisy.

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]]> By: Brian Burton http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-74054 Brian Burton Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:58:48 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-74054 I don't give a flying toss for any 750 crap survey. Read the NZ Herald on line, according to it, new Zealanders are too 'Obese' to care about anything. The United Nations Childrens Agency say New Zealand's record there is appalling. Street gangs are rife in the towns. N.Zealand is a crap place to live. I don't give a flying toss for any 750 crap survey. Read the NZ Herald on line, according to it, new Zealanders are too 'Obese' to care about anything. The United Nations Childrens Agency say New Zealand's record there is appalling. Street gangs are rife in the towns. N.Zealand is a crap place to live.

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]]> By: Brian Burton http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-74052 Brian Burton Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:46:49 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-74052 Eddy, Keith has gone all anti-sosial since 'Boy' George tore a strip off him on the Religious threads! Eddy,
Keith has gone all anti-sosial since 'Boy' George tore a strip off him on the Religious threads!

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]]> By: Eddy http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-73998 Eddy Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:37:52 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-73998 Hi Keith. Long time, no see! Glad you like your NZ chops! Do you have a soundcard on your computer? Tune in to some of the NZ talkback radio programmes. There are lots of them in New Zealand. You'll be amazed at how passionate the people are and how there is a really frightening number who still, despite all the advances made in NZ legislation, think that homosexuality is sick. Same in Australia, I notice, despite Sydney being a gay capital, Mardi Gras and all that! Hi Keith.

Long time, no see!

Glad you like your NZ chops!

Do you have a soundcard on your computer? Tune in to some of the NZ talkback radio programmes. There are lots of them in New Zealand. You'll be amazed at how passionate the people are and how there is a really frightening number who still, despite all the advances made in NZ legislation, think that homosexuality is sick. Same in Australia, I notice, despite Sydney being a gay capital, Mardi Gras and all that!

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]]> By: theotherone http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-73990 theotherone Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:37:37 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-73990 precisely abi: I'd venture to say that the results are (to use a term deployed in the West Coast of Scotland) mince. precisely abi: I'd venture to say that the results are (to use a term deployed in the West Coast of Scotland) mince.

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]]> By: Brenton http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-73972 Brenton Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:01:48 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-73972 I encounter bigots and homophobes every day! One needs to be realistic. Straights are in the majority but it is 'RELIGION" that is the big evil!!!!!!!! 'Our' revolution is also the secular heterosexual revolution! I have even educated my straight friends to vote differently. Never miss an opportunity! We are at war! I encounter bigots and homophobes every day! One needs to be realistic. Straights are in the majority but it is 'RELIGION" that is the big evil!!!!!!!! 'Our' revolution is also the secular heterosexual revolution! I have even educated my straight friends to vote differently. Never miss an opportunity! We are at war!

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]]> By: Abi1975 http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-73958 Abi1975 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:21:40 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-73958 With a sample size that small you could get any result! With a sample size that small you could get any result!

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]]> By: Keith http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-73947 Keith Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:25:25 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-73947 ....as worn in Rome, Canterbury and Rochester...to name but three. K ….as worn in Rome, Canterbury and Rochester…to name but three.

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]]> By: Keith http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-73946 Keith Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:23:42 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-73946 New Zealanders! Just concentrate on your butter and sheep, there's good lads! The world doesn't need another load of windbaggery from down there. There's enough windbaggery up here in Europe to last until Christ comes again. My Jersey Royals spuds and mint just love your butter and lamb chops; life really is THAT simple. Leave the pointless, fruitless, embittering, moralising to the tits in lace and silk pointy hats. Keith. SALFORD New Zealanders!
Just concentrate on your butter and sheep, there's good lads!
The world doesn't need another load of windbaggery from down there.
There's enough windbaggery up here in Europe to last until Christ comes again.
My Jersey Royals spuds and mint just love your butter and lamb chops; life really is THAT simple.
Leave the pointless, fruitless, embittering, moralising to the tits in lace and silk pointy hats.

Keith.
SALFORD

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]]> By: theotherone http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-73937 theotherone Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:38:18 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-73937 small survey is correct. How where the respondents selected? What where the questions? Where did they live? All these questions (and more) need answered - especially with such a small survey group. small survey is correct.

How where the respondents selected? What where the questions? Where did they live?

All these questions (and more) need answered – especially with such a small survey group.

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]]> By: SamB http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-73934 SamB Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:20:05 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-73934 A poll recently conducted here in the United Kingdom found that 42 per cent of society does not consider homosexuality to be moral. Thankfully, these narrow-minded humans are in the (decreasing) minority; however, it's still a dangerously large minority, and it goes to show that we must not be complacent. A poll recently conducted here in the United Kingdom found that 42 per cent of society does not consider homosexuality to be moral. Thankfully, these narrow-minded humans are in the (decreasing) minority; however, it's still a dangerously large minority, and it goes to show that we must not be complacent.

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]]> By: RobN http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-73925 RobN Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:01:46 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-73925 I have to say, I am very surprised at those figures. I have always seen Kiwis to be very level-headed and open-minded, without too much of a God fixation like so many other countries. Maybe they just picked the wrong 750. I have to say, I am very surprised at those figures. I have always seen Kiwis to be very level-headed and open-minded, without too much of a God fixation like so many other countries.

Maybe they just picked the wrong 750.

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]]> By: Anthony http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html/comment-page-1/#comment-73915 Anthony Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:18:15 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-14190.html#comment-73915 What is important though, is that this is now a minority. Cast back 20 or 30 years, and I can guarantee that figure would be considerably higher. What is important though, is that this is now a minority. Cast back 20 or 30 years, and I can guarantee that figure would be considerably higher.

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