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would you please actualy look a tthe voting record of DC and GB? You'll see a diffrent picture emerging. As to the views of Tories: have you seen the story here about the views of Tory candates?

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John O’Grady, who was the Labour leader of Southwark council at the time stood against Peter, under the banner of the Real Bermondsey Labour Party, and it is rumoured that in the last week of the elections a leaflet depicting Peter next to the Queen with the headline the headline ‘Which Queen will you vote for?’ was his doing.

The Tories seemed to be the only ones in the whole affair that kept their noses clean.

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Tatchell was already controversial because he was the epitome of the far-left activist infiltrating Constituency Labour Parties and capturing the nomination – at one stage before the general election Michael Foot refused to endorse Tatchell at an exchange in the Commons. The Conservative campaign in the by-election was largely focused on Tatchell's extremism.

It was John O'Grady, the former Labour leader of Soutwark council who had been deposed (and, I think, deselected) by Tatchell's far left allies, who made the main running on Tatchell's sexuality. O'Grady stood as an independent Labour candidate with the backing of outgoing Labour MP Bob Mellish. The attacks were joined in by the Liberals with their famous "I've been kissed by Peter Tatchell" badges.

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I'd take Brown's record over Cameron's. Brown has not once voted against gay rights; Cameron has, multiple times, including on the most recent votes (IVF for lesbians, incitement of homophobic hatred). Oleaginous two-faced Cameron talks pretty to gays then stabs them in the back while in the Commons.

Also it's parties as a whole that are important on these issues not single individuals. Is the Tory party's consistent and current fight against equality OK just because Call-Me-Dave voted in favour of CPs?

Cameron was in a MINORITY of Conservatives who supported Labour's anti-discrimination laws. The vast majority of Tory MPs are still homophobic, that fact won't go away not matter how hard you hand-wring.

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I am 100% sure that the first thing any new Tory government does won't be the complete equalisation of rights between all sections of society. So what, it will take time.

I am also 100% certain that the first thing they do won't be to line us all up and shove us into gas chambers.

After the disaster of new labour I think the Tories deserve a fair chance.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Tories have shown no real commitment to equality. They are all talk which is not backed up by action. I think a Tory overall victory would be a disaster for this community as all the hateful bigots would reappear the minute they won.

I'm thinking the best outcome at the next election would be the Lib Dems on coalition with a bigger party. The Tories simply cannot be trusted. And 'Dave' Cameron's past voting record on gay issues is evidence of that.

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so moamaom it dosn't matter what DC says YOU know better.

Could you explain why DC voted for protection against discrimination, for civil partnerships, against an amendment to the recent adoption law that would have disalowed Gay Adoption. Brown, on the other hand, has been absent at almost every vote and voted for the above amendment. Seems his voting record is verry, verry poor.

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I hate to pull out Free Speach but how can we, as a group, silence people within our group if the disagree with us? Debate is the way forward not censorship.

I would ask who runs this site as blatend untruths regarding the voting records and views of some MPs but if I post regadring the history of Labours shamefull history on the repeal of Clause 28 the post disaperes.

Will this post disapear too?

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Voted for: Civil Partnership Bill [Lords], Equality Act (Sexual Orientation) Regulations, voted against Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill — Fertility treatment requires male role model — rejected.

http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpid=1932&dmp=826

Gordon Brown, on the other hand, didn't make it to parlament to vote on menny of these issues and voted to say that a child requires a Mother and Father. Seems he's got a poor voting record

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"Cameron has spoken of his suport for Gay Rites."

That's because that's all Cameron and his party are – talk.

The Tories always speak of how much they've changed on gay rights but when it comes down to the actual voting in parliament it's a different picture.

The majority of Tory MPs voted against Labour's bill to ban discrimination against gays in the provision of goods and services in 2007. David Cameron himself voted AGAINST allowing lesbians IVF in 2008, as well as voting against hate speech protection this year, as did almost all other Conservatives. At this moment the Tories are trying their damned hardest to stop Labour's Equality bill which will very likely be scrapped if they get into power next year.

You may be impressed by Cameron and the Conservatives' hollow little apologies on Section 28 and the lovely talk about how their now so progressive on gay rights but I'm not. I'm more concerned about what they actually do.

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