You are quite right Chester. You condemn yourself by believing the lies of the devil that it is OK to be homosexual and be a disciple of Jesus. The fact that the bible only has one position that of marriage between a man and a woman and sexual relations in that context means that you do not accept what God has revealed to be the norm.

In Romans it makes it quite clear that the church accepted homosexuals but not to continue being homosexuals as Paul says “such were some of you” which means that they no longer are homosexual.

Whilst I realise that the reason why you became homosexual was caused by forces out of your control, whether you continue in it is your choice. There are enough testimonies that show one need not be a homosexual and that there is deliverance through the shed blood of Jesus, as there is for all sin and all sinners.

Obviously if you are determined to continue in your sin, there is not much that God can do for you and the scripture is quite clear when it says that homosexuals amongst others will not inherit the kingdom of God. As God cannot lie, this is a fact that you cannot circumvent much as I am sure that you would like to.

As far as redefining the word “homophobia” that is quite clearly what the gaystapo do as they insist that it means someone who disagrees with you. The dictionary makes it quite clear that it is having a fear of homosexuals and that is the definition that I use because it is true. I have no fear of homosexuals at all so I am not homophobic.

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First of all Brian my dear pumpkin seed, the word is “pseudo”, not sudo.

Second my dear pumpkin seed, we are not trying to be intellectual as the bible says that the foolishness of God is greater than the wisdom of man. Therefore it is unnecessary for us to be “intellectual” or otherwise because we don’t rely on what we know we draw on the wisdom of God who just happens to know a lot more than you do.

Third, it is quite unnecessary to put eggs in our shoes as we have bowls available any time of the day or night to beat them in. I particularly enjoy doing that when I want to make scrambled egg for lunch. I add a bit of bacon, onion and cheese to give it flavour.

Fourth, when one descends into name calling, invective and shouting it clearly indicates a person who has a short temper, an anger management problem and nothing intellectual to say.

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YOU SUDO-INTELLECTUALS ARE A PAIN! WHY DO'NT YOU PUT AN EGG IN YOUR SHOES' AND BEAT IT!?

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By the looks of things you haven't read all of the bible just Leviticus, which by the way is one of the five books of the Torah which were written to Jews. I am surprised being such an authority on the bible you didn't know that.

Apart from the fact that every Tom, Dick and homosexual quotes Leviticus as though we are going to be impressed with their biblical knowledge and we are going to cringe and crawl into a hole because it is there.

Fortunately we do read the whole bible so we are not at all phased when you quote the bits that suit your agenda as it shows us that you are quote-mining to make you feel superior.

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I guess you must follow if rule and demand made in the Bible? (particularly all those mentioned alongside homosexuality in Leviticus)

Here's a few to get you started, (just in case you have'nt read ALL your Bible):

"For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him." (Leviticus 20:9)

God commanded Abraham to circumcise himself, and all his children were to be circumcised. (Genesis 17:11; Leviticus 12:2-3)

And there's plenty more crap where that came from…

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I assume that you are writing as a lesbian. You say you love the Bible. In the bible Jesus said if you love me you will keep my commandments.His commandments are in the bible. There are 770 verses that recognises only one form of marriage. Between a man and a woman. If you love the bible why are you disobeying what it says?

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Someone else waking up to reality.

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At last, someone is waking up to reality!!

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Evidence please!!

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Not one of them are as God is not afraid of homosexuals. In fact, God is not afraid of anything or anyone.

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And shall we remove those passages that talk about murder, or fornication, or aultery, or abortion, or child molestation, or stealing, or covetesness so that these people can feel compfortable about themselves whilst they commit their crimes?

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Lezabella – Christianity is my faith, and even though I'm gay I don't want to abandon that, and I think that is the same situation for many LGBT religious followers. Of course there are hostilities when it comes to LGBT members and the church, but there are also those in the church who support and accept all sexualities, and the crux of the matter is – this isn't about the institution, or the people of the Church. It is about gay couples and their God, and their right to get married in the house of God.
Screw the church of England, I'm just concerned with God.

As for the point about wanting what we can't have… I couldn't want to get married in a church any more. I would love the opportunity to enter into a lifelong commitment and not feel estranged from my own faith by being barred from Churches.
And I hardly think it is imposing gay marriage upon faiths just by giving them the right to perform civil unions. If they don't want to, they don't have to.

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I sometimes think gay people just want to kick up a fuss not because they actually WANT whatever it is, but more the fact they can't have it. I'm waiting for some dickhead gay men to start shouting about "If straight women can get pregnant, then we should be entitled to as well!"

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It just seems to me that we (as the gay community) are trying to enforce our way of life on them when we know the majority of them don't approve…….the very same thing that we accuse them of doing to us!

It's ridiculous! Leave their churches alone, they want nothing to do with us and as far as I'm concerned they can fuck off aswell!

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I think that if the particular church wishes to do civil partnerships/Holy Unions for their members, then what is the problem? Like Simon, I don't think it should be forced, but I don't see a problem if they would like to provide this service. For those places which make a profit off marriage, yes, I think same-sex ceremonies should be done there. Simply have clergy who are willing to do the ceremony perform them.

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To me, a gay christian or a gay muslim are oxymorons. But then religious interpretation of books is pretty mallable, so I'm sure if people think they know what God is and what he/she wants, then they'll do it anyway.

PS Lezabella – what a rant, you almost sound like me With you all the way though…..

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